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How many Sixes does Adolf Nazi have to Roll?

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Tropes for the planned book based on the TL "How many Sixes does Adolf Nazi have to Roll?":

  • Allohistorical Allusion: "Some Germans wonder for how long the 'Führer' would have been willing to make war with the Russians - four years maybe, like in World War I?!"
    • Nazi Germany builds huge walls along its new eastern border to the Soviet Union. The latter calls it "the fascist wall of aggression", Churchill coins the term "Concrete Curtain", while most Germans simply call it "Die Mauern".
  • Alternate History Nazi Victory: The very premise of the story. Additionally, with the claim to do it in a realistic way.
  • Alternate History Wank: In 1945, Nazi Germany and its satellites control all of Continental Europe west of a smaller Soviet Union, except for Sweden, Switzerland, and Portugal. Plus some areas outside Europe. And that's not the end of it...
    • Inverted (an Alternate History Screw): For several countries defeated in the World War, but especially Poland, Yugoslavia, France, and Japan.
  • Antiquated Linguistics: Hence old-timey terms like "Byelorussia" (or "Weißruthenien" in German), or the use of Wade-Giles for Chinese names.
  • Audience-Alienating Premise: Nazis win World War II. Mixed with lots of Black Humor. And many original ideas. While removing everyone from our history you know and love if they are born after the divergence, for the Butterfly Effect. Nuff said.
    • While at the same time alienating the new nazis for using a certain Hitler-critical appellation right there in the title.
  • Author Appeal: An Alternate History where elements from our world appear under different names. Like the concept of "Sweding".
  • Balkanize Me: Will probably happen more than once.
  • Be Careful What You Wish For: During the war, many persecuted people had prayed for peace. Turns out, as soon as the war is over and the chaos makes place for a new order, life under Nazi rule becomes even more dangerous for them.
  • Black and Gray Morality
  • Butterfly of Doom: For this reason, nobody born since the early 1940s exists in this world. If some of them seem to appear, they'll be really more like siblings from the same parents, with the same sex, the same first name, and roughly the same birth date.
  • Butt Monkey: Will feature several ones, even and especially among the Nazis.
  • Call to Agriculture: Several million Germans settle in the newly annexed East.
  • Cast Herd: In a way that comes quite natural: Grouped by their nation.
  • The Chessmaster: The "Obersalzberg astrologers" (like Kremlin astrologers, but for Nazis) have to be this.
  • Content Warnings: There is a longish one which leaves no doubt that this will be a hard story to read - for anti-nazis, because they lose and horrible things happen because of their defeat, and for nazis, because the author won't mince words about what they are willing to do and will put into practice in the story.
  • Cosmic Plaything: Jews, Romani, blacks, Slavs
  • Crapsack World: The Nazis reign supreme in Europe west of the Soviet Union, Stalinist Communism is standing strong, and freedoms (both social and economic!) in the "free world" may be restricted.
  • Deal with the Devil: Said about the Hitler-Stalin pact.
  • Deconstruction: The story researches just how bad a Nazi victory would be for the world. Sure, everyone and their grandma agrees about that part, but what about the details? This story looks at various aspects of it:
    • How would Germans deal with the mental pressure of knowing what is going on in the Reich, while they aren't allowed to say it loud?
    • How would the young Germans react growing up, knowing that they are essentially a slaveholder society now? And how would older Germans react to those youngsters who think themselves too good for dirty/boring/hard work?
    • What'd be the result of German(ic)s growing up in the infamous Lebensborn homes? (Hint: Think of Ceausescu's Romania.)
    • What'd be the result of huge areas of former Soviet territory being settled by Germans? (Hint: Think of the saying "Two countries which are separated by a common language.")
  • Dedication: To AH author Robert Harris, and Ralph Giordano who witnessed the Third Reich.
  • Eagleland: This trope lives on, in both of its aspects. Don't forget that Germany is the second-most important country with an eagle in its crest.
  • Egopolis: Himmlerstadt-Birkenau (near a certain Auschwitz).
    • Saranda (Albania) was renamed to Porto Edda, after Benito Mussolini's daughter. This already happened in our history.
  • Epigraph: The book starts with a Black Comedy joke and a guy with a Ph.D. talking about a prediction from a guy philosophizing about history. Giving you a taste what kind of story this is gonna be.
  • Face-Heel Turn: Many Germans and other "Aryans" when they see that Adolf Nazi seems unstoppable, and the Allies have failed.
  • Foreshadowing: Liechtenstein (but not Switzerland) will be swallowed by NaziGermany after the war is over.
    • Somaliland will be anything but be divided into an Italian, a British, and a French part.
  • For Want of a Nail: More like a whole nail factory, in order to make Nazi Germany not only win the war, but to survive 20 years afterwards.
  • Gallows Humor: "Enjoy the war, 'cause the peace will be horrible!" As was said by many Germans in our world who had their doubts about the "Führer" being able to win the war.
  • Gratuitous German: Many examples, several of them (Itaka-Hemden, Nationalfilzismus, Polenwall) made up for the story.
  • Historical In-Joke: Many prominent people die prematurely on dates important for them (in our history, that is). Konrad Adenauer when he'd be elected chancellor of West Germany, Josip Broz Tito when he'd break with the Soviet Union, etc.
  • Inside Joke: Male homosexuals are often referred to as "gaysexuals" by the author. This Insistent Terminology is copied over from AlternateHistory.COM.
  • Insistent Terminology: "Adolf Nazi" for, y'know. "Führer" and "Aryans" in irony quotes. Same thing about "comrade" Stalin. Or nazi terms like "untermenschen".
    • In a similar way, some terms about which nobody batted an eye then, but are slurs today, like "Negroes". People talked like this at that time, you don't have to approve it.
    • People from the Reich writing about Kurdistan seem to be contractually required to write "Das wilde Kurdistan" (The wild Kurdistan) when reporting about it. Doubles as an in-story Shout-Out to Karl May's novels - which Adolf Nazi loved so much.
  • Irony: In this world, George S. Patton says about Rommel: "Damn, that guy really is a Magnificent Bastard... the German brass must be so damn proud of him!" -- Truth is, both in our history and HM6, many German generals had nothing but hate and envy for him.
  • Istanbul (Not Constantinople): More than once, esp. for "Germanized" cities.
  • Landslide Election: 1944 in the US.
  • Missing Mom / Disappeared Dad: Standard for kids from Lebensborn homes. As in Real Life - the Nazis would raise "Aryan" kids there whose parents couldn't care for them, but also stolen children who happened to look "Aryan".
  • No Celebrities Were Harmed: Making use of maiden names, unused first names, and real names of people using pseudonyms. So far (well, in 1940) there are Eberhardt Gauland, Melvin Kaminsky, Jane Butzner, Alfred Biller, Franz Strohsack, Ferenc Hoffmann, Hans Ernst Schneider...
  • Orwellian Editor: In Nazi Germany
  • Our Presidents are Different
  • Proud Merchant Race: Greeks, Armenians, Levantine Christians.
  • Proud Warrior Race: The Kurds like to use this image.
  • The Quisling: The Trope Namer will feature prominently. Laval, Mussert, and many others also count.
  • La Resistance: Unfortunately not successful, leading to an early death of Oskar Schindler, Karol Woytila, Josip Broz Tito, and others.
  • Ripped from the Headlines: Many.
    • "By all means necessary" (yes, it's about defeating Nazis, or someone close to them at least)
    • "Still not loving fascism"
    • A New Yorker businessman named Trump (no, not that one, his father) using the phrase "tired of winning".
  • Sarcasm Mode: "At least there is one thing left in the world that this man considers a sin!"
  • Shaped Like Itself: In a joke (taken from our history):
Nazi teacher: "How do you imagine the Third Reich?"
Jewish school boy: "Exactly as it is!"
  • Shout-Out: The story starts with the words "It's the little things which make a difference sometimes."
  • Shown Their Work: What people hopefully will say once it'll be finished.
  • Sliding Scale of Alternate History Plausibility: On the very hard side. Well, that's the plan.
  • Spell My Name with an S: Chinese names are consistently spelled in the old Wade-Giles system (as in "Mao Tse-tung", "Teng Hsiao-ping", and not only in "Chiang Kai-shek"). Helps to give to whole story an eerie feeling.
  • Start My Own: When Adolf Nazi proclaims the new Olympic Games for 1944, everyone outside the Nazi block doesn't like the suggestion. This is the start of a three-way split: The western world and the Nazi block will argue whose Olympic Games are the real deal, while Stalin celebrates his Spartakiade instead.
  • Take That!: Many.
    • On a minor note, Brigitte Bardot marries an SS officer. She gets "Germanized" officially.
  • Thirteen is Unlucky: Some people notice that Adolf Nazi's inofficial Olympic Games of 1944 mark the beginning of the 13th Olympiade, although they're just the eleventh ones if you don't count the cancelled games of 1916 and 1940.
  • Those Wacky Nazis: Wackier than ever. Unfortunately, more successful too.
  • Token Good Teammate: Template:Finland, a halfway free and democratic country and an ally of Nazi Germany. As in our history.
  • Understatement: The Jews are hugely relieved when Churchill finally decides to promote their irregular resistance groups in Palestine to full-fledged auxiliaries against Nazi Germany.
  • Unperson
  • Visual Pun: The crest of the "Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler" SS troops has a key on it (as in Real Life). See, their leader was named Sepp Dietrich - and in German, a "dietrich" is a key, the kind burglars use to be precise.
  • What Could Have Been?: The author thought about an alternative France Gall marrying a dashing SS officer (after getting "Aryan" credentials), but since she was born post-divergence (early 1940s, remember), that idea was dead.
  • The Wiki Rule: Has already over a hundred pages for the historical background, collected here (English) and here (German).

Characters[]

Historical domain characters[]

Adolf "Nazi" Hitler[]

Hermann Göring[]

Joseph Goebbels[]

Heinrich Himmler[]

Reinhard Heydrich[]

Martin Bormann[]

Robert Ley[]

Hans Frank[]

Rudolf Heß[]

Joachim von Ribbentrop[]

Benito Mussolini[]

Eva Braun[]

Franklin D. Roosevelt[]

Winston Churchill[]

Joseph Stalin[]

Other characters[]

Alexander Student[]

  • Allohistorical Allusion: "In fact, I'm willing to bet that in most possible histories, they[1] would've had to commit suicide, which is a common method to wipe out failures in the German army after all - or they would've been lynched by an angry mob of their countrymen."
  • Greek Chorus: Several characters, independently from each other however. Most prominently him.
  • Jerkass has a Point: He can be an asshole. The problem is, he is right.
  • Pragmatic Anti-Hero: He doesn't think that corrupting the German population with luxuries, their leadership with bribes, or cooperating with professional criminals against the Nazi regime would be unfair means to bring it down.
  • Precision F Strike: Typical for him.
  • Proud Merchant Race: He is a Greek trader.
  • The Reason You Suck Speech: About turncoats joining the Nazi cause: "What kind of people are this? Try to remember the bravest and smartest ones in your school class: They aren't the kind of people who dream of making a career as a bureaucrat in Herr Hitler's Reich. Those who are willing to work for him are mediocre fucks at best, people with slave mentalities at worst. No cheap tawk about 'master race' and 'ubermenschen' can help them with this."
  • Sarcasm Mode: It's a safe bet he's using this whenever he talks about "Herr Hitler", "Signore Mussolini", "Herr Goebbels" etc.
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